Professor Michelle Sauer, an expert in medieval studies and queer theory, joins comedian Sophie Duker and host Greg Jenner to unveil the captivating life of Benedetta Carlini, a 17th-century Italian nun. They discuss her miraculous visions, including stigmata, and the intrigue surrounding her secret relationship with another nun, Bartolomea. The conversation digs into the historical contexts of female same-sex relationships while humorously imagining Benedetta as a modern social media influencer, making this tale of miracles and scandal both enlightening and entertaining.
Benedetta Carlini's life highlights the complexities of gender roles and religious authority in 17th-century Italy, reshaping perceptions of female power.
Her dramatic rise and fall illustrate the conflict between spiritual experiences and institutional suspicion, leading to her eventual downfall and isolation.
Deep dives
Benedetta Carlini's Early Life and Spiritual Beginnings
Benedetta Carlini was born on January 20, 1590, in Volano, Tuscany, as the only child of a wealthy family. Her father, the third richest man in the village, dedicated her to God after a difficult childbirth, leading her to join the convent at the young age of nine. From an early age, Benedetta exhibited signs of a mystical calling, including experiences such as reciting litanies and having visions. By the time she was a teenager, she became known for her unique spiritual encounters, which included moments with a mysterious black dog and visions that suggested a divine presence.
Benedetta's Ascension and Controversial Visions
As Benedetta matured, her spiritual experiences intensified, including episodes of stigmata, which were unique among her peers in the convent. She began voicing her visions from the pulpit, challenging traditional gender roles and gaining a considerable following among the nuns. However, her claims of mystical encounters, including a supposed marriage to Jesus and interactions with an angel named Splenditello, began to raise suspicion from church authorities. Benedetta’s remarkable claims brought her both admiration and scrutiny, leading to a formal investigation into her life and practices.
The Investigation and Fallout
After accumulating notable attention and undergoing a series of investigations, Benedetta faced increasing pressure from the church, which was suspicious of her growing power and authority. The arrival of papal representatives brought more rigorous questioning, ultimately leading to accusations of devilish influence and the revelation of a secret relationship with her friend Bartolomea. This relationship, along with her magical visions, led to an eventual recantation of her earlier claims of divine communication, as she was coerced into admitting deception. Benedetta's life ended in isolation after 35 years of confinement, reflecting the harsh realities faced by women who claimed power during her time.
Greg Jenner is joined in 17th-century Italy by Professor Michelle Sauer and comedian Sophie Duker to learn about notorious nun Benedetta Carlini.
From the moment of her birth in 1590, Benedetta – whose name literally means ‘blessed’ – was dedicated to God’s service by her father. As a young girl, she joined a community of religious women, where in her twenties she began experiencing mystical visions. These culminated in a number of miraculous signs and occurrences, including the appearance of the stigmata on her body. But following a papal investigation, shocking secrets were revealed, including her sexual relationship with another nun. This episode charts her life, from the miracles that occurred during her childhood, through her time as a devout nun, and to her ultimate downfall at the hands of the papal investigator.
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Hosted by: Greg Jenner
Research by: Hannah Campbell Hewson
Written by: Hannah Campbell Hewson, Emmie Rose Price-Goodfellow, Emma Nagouse, and Greg Jenner
Produced by: Emmie Rose Price-Goodfellow and Greg Jenner
Audio Producer: Steve Hankey
Production Coordinator: Ben Hollands
Senior Producer: Emma Nagouse
Executive Editor: James Cook
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