If poverty is a problem the U.S. knows how to fix, why do 40 million Americans live below the poverty line? Because a lot of us benefit from poor people, says Pulitzer Prize-winning author Matthew Desmond, who explains to Andy why we do more to subsidize affluence than alleviate poverty. Matthew shares examples of real solutions you can advocate for in your community (and what to say the next time a neighbor complains about their taxes).

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Order Matthew’s new book, “Poverty, By America”: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/675683/poverty-by-america-by-matthew-desmond/
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What It’s Like to Be Poor in America (with Matthew Desmond)