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The Shifting Privacy Left Podcast

S2E28: "BigTech Privacy; Responsible AI; and Bias Bounties at DEF CON" with Jutta Williams (Reddit)

Sep 19, 2023
54:57

This week, I welcome Jutta Williams, Head of Privacy & Assurance at Reddit, Co-founder of Humane Intelligence and BiasBounty.ai, Privacy & Responsible AI Evangelist, and Startup Board Advisor. With a long history of accomplishments in privacy engineering, Jutta has a unique perspective on the growing field.

In our conversation, we discuss her transition from security engineering to privacy engineering; how privacy cultures differ across social media companies where she's worked: Google, Facebook, Twitter, and now Reddit; the overlap of the privacy engineering & responsible AI; how her non-profit, Humane Intelligence, supports AI model owners; her experience launching the largest Generative AI Red Teaming challenge ever at DEF CON; and, how a curious knowledge-enhancing approach to privacy will create engagement and allow for fun.

Topics Covered:

  • How Jutta’s unique transition from security engineering landed her in the privacy engineering space. 
  • A comparison of privacy cultures across Google, Facebook, Twitter (now 'X'), and Reddit based on her privacy engineering experiences there.
  • Two open Privacy Engineering roles at Reddit, and Jutta's advice for those wanting to transition from security engineering to privacy engineering.
  • Whether Privacy Pros will be responsible for owning new regulatory obligations under the EU's Digital Services Act (DSA) & the Digital Markets Act (DMA); and the role of the Privacy Engineer when overlapping with Responsible AI issues
  • Humane Intelligence,  Jutta's 'side quest,' which she co-leads with Dr. Rumman Chowdhury, and supports AI model owners seeking 'Product Readiness Reviews' at scale.
  • When, during the product development life cycle, companies should perform 'AI Readiness Reviews'
  • How to de-biased at scale or whether attempting to do so is 'chasing windmills'
  • Who should be hunting for biases in an AI Bias Bounty challenge
  • DEF CON 31's AI Village's 'Generative AI Red Teaming Challenge,' which was a bias bounty that she co-designed; lessons learned; and what Jutta & team have planned for DEF CON 32 next year
  • Why it's so important for people to 'love their side quests'


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