In the Interlagos paddock, Tom Clarkson is joined by Formula 2 championship leader and McLaren academy driver Gabriel Bortoleto to preview the Sao Paulo Grand Prix in Brazil.

Max Verstappen leads Lando Norris by 47 points in the Drivers’ World Championship. With four races and two F1 Sprints left this season, there's a total of 120 points still to race for.

Rain is a possibility in Brazil. A grid penalty is also possible for Verstappen, if he takes a new power unit. What impact could those factors have on the outcome this weekend? Will Max change his approach to racing Lando after being punished in Mexico? And with Ferrari closing the gap in the Constructors’ Standings, and targeting a third win in a row, are McLaren starting to feel the pressure? 

You’ll also hear Lewis Hamilton describe what it means to be driving Ayrton Senna’s 1990 title-winning McLaren around the track on Saturday. Plus, having been heavily linked to the second seat at Sauber for 2025, Tom asks Gabriel what he can tell us about his future.