Behind the scenes at the ALL-IN AI SUMMIT w/ POTUS, JD Vance, Jensen Huang, Lisa Su, and more… | E2156

Jul 25, 2025

Join a thrilling recap of the All-In AI Summit, where off-script moments with the president spark lively debates. Discover solar power's challenges and its geopolitical implications, while exploring the promise of open-source robotics. The conversation dives into new AI executive orders and examines the future of tech jobs, weighing optimism against the fear of job displacement. Plus, a Reddit founder seeks advice on the risks of prematurely integrating AI into products—all against the backdrop of U.S.-China tech rivalry!

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INSIGHT

Solar Power Is the Best Short-Term Solution

Solar power is the cheapest and best short- to mid-term energy solution when combined with batteries.
Nuclear and fusion are promising longer-term options, with natural gas needed as a bridging fuel.

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AI Likely Won't Cause Massive Unemployment

Historically, unemployment rates return to low levels after recessions despite technological disruptions.
Massive long-term unemployment from AI would break this consistent economic pattern.

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Robots Will Displace Multiple Jobs

Robots in factories and autonomous taxis will replace multiple shifts of human jobs, accelerating job displacement.
Transition to other sectors like healthcare and construction requires re-education and training for displaced workers.

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Today’s show:

Jason’s back and filling us in on his experiences in Washington DC, at the All-In AI Summit, including getting a Trump shoutout from stage, debating immigration with VP Vance, and calling out Sec. Wright for dismissing solar power.THEN Jason and Alex talk about the immense promise of open-source robotics and check out Hugging Face’s Reachy…PLUS picking apart the White House’s new AI-related executive orders, why Jason is afraid of China repeating its Huawei success, a free exchange about tariffs vs. free trade, AND a pressing query from a founder on Reddit: how bad is it to add AI to your product too early?

Timestamps:

(0:00) INTRO, Alex updates Jason about all this week’s TWiST 500 interviews

(03:33) Inside Jason’s experiences at this week’s All In AI Summit with POTUS!

(05:33) Jason’s back and forth on solar power with US Energy Sec. Chris Wright

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(16:54) Jason asks AMD CEO Lisa Su about reaching “superintelligence” and whether it could trigger an unemployment crisis

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(23:42) Jason says… any time you have to wait days or weeks for a service or product, there’s a MASSIVE opportunity.

(26:16) What do Trump’s new AI executive orders actually say?

(27:27) Which EO’s are red meat for Trump’s base, and which ones are likely to become laws and have real impact?

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(35:17) How Huawei went worldwide and why Jason doesn’t want that to happen again with AI.

(38:32) Jason and Alex have a little tariff vs. free trade debate.

(47:03) VP Vance complained about US tech companies laying off Americans, then hiring immigrants; Jason gives his take

(53:35) Jason answers a Reddit question: Is adding AI to your product too early a TRAP?

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