We're joined this episode by bestselling author, podcaster and voice actor Travis McElroy! #travnation
Together we dig deep into the overlap between neurodivergence and masculine traits, self-expression when men's fashion is so often "blah", and the real difference between men and women's restrooms.

Other topics of note this episode include: Sigma males, silly ties, picking fights, fetch-quests, peacocks, empathy, fitting in, helpful lesbians, and the Muppet Christmas Carol (trust us).

Not Real Men is a podcast about masculinity at the intersection of queerness, ability, comedy, and love. It is hosted by musician-comedian Laser Webber (the Doubleclicks) and writer-model-actor Colin Buckingham.

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Hosted by Laser Webber and Colin Buckingham

Episode 1 Edited by Laser Webber

Episodes 2-6 Edited by Tracy Barnett

Theme Song by TJ Norton

Social Producer Morgan Peters

Thanks to Aubrey Turner

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