It's the end of oral arguments, and this week the Court heard two big ones. Your hosts discuss Grants Pass, where the Court will decide whether it's "cruel and unusual punishment" to enforce anti-camping laws, and they discuss the Trump immunity case, which has big implications not only for the presidential election but for the office of the presidency forever. After that, Zack interviews legendary legal philosopher Hadley Arkes about his latest book, Mere Natural Law, and then Zack shows off his criminal-law expertise in 8th Amendment trivia.

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