

Ep. #553: Heather Heying & Bret Weinstein, Van Jones, James Pogue
Jan 30, 2021
Heather Heying, an evolutionary biologist at Princeton, and Van Jones, a CNN commentator and former Obama advisor, join forces with journalist James Pogue. They tackle the absurdity of conspiracy theories and the politicization of COVID-19, advocating for transparency in vaccine discussions. The trio dives into the complexities of climate action amid political divides, emphasizing bipartisan cooperation. They also explore the moral intricacies of criminal justice reform and the importance of steady governance in healthcare, all with a blend of humor and critical insight.
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Vaccine Game Theory
There's a game theory problem with vaccines: it's best if everyone else gets vaccinated, but not you. This leads to downplaying vaccine risks and demonizing those who question them.
Lab Leak Theory
The COVID-19 virus's origin in a Wuhan lab was initially dismissed as a conspiracy theory. However, the likelihood of this hypothesis increases considering the lab's unique nature.
Vaccine Preference
Traditional vaccines use a piece of the actual virus, while mRNA vaccines are a new technology. Heather Heying and Bret Weinstein express a preference for the more traditional approach due to its longer history.