In this week's episode, Thomas has a one-on-one chat with National Party MP and former leader Simon Bridges. They discuss Bridges' new book, why he thinks the country should do more on climate change, personalities trumping ideology, his stance on conversion therapy, and why he isn't a big fan of capitalism. Plus, Bridges reflects on the state of the Covid response, the Facebook post that brought him down, and whether he wants to go again as leader.

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