Max Wilbert is an activist, wilderness guide and writer, co-authoring Bright Green Lies: How The Environmental Movement Lost Its Way and What We Can Do About It.

Max reveals how mainstream environmentalism is merely a proponent for green growth and business as usual. He says this comfortable form of environmentalism, which sees people trade in their cars for electric vehicles and go meatless only on Mondays, is a damaging distraction to the real work which has to be done: Systemic change.

We also discuss his years protesting resource extraction, the role of technology, and the trauma of the West’s colonialism.

Planet: Critical investigates why the world is in crisis—and what to do about it.

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