Professor Carl Jones, conservation biologist

Apr 13, 2025

Carl Jones, a conservation biologist renowned for rescuing the Mauritius kestrel from extinction, shares his extraordinary journey. He discusses his innovative breeding methods that brought the kestrel back from the brink, along with touching stories about his bond with Andean condors. Jones reflects on how childhood memories sparked his passion for wildlife and explores the emotional challenges of conservation. He also emphasizes the importance of biodiversity and his role in restoring ecosystems, including introducing giant tortoises to Mauritius.

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Empathizing With Andean Condors

Carl Jones empathized deeply with his hand-reared Andean condors to rehabilitate and encourage natural behaviors.
He used adjacent cages and controlled interactions to manage their aggression and socialization.

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Childhood Backyard Menagerie

Carl Jones kept a menagerie of up to 40 animals in his Carmarthen backyard, including rescued birds and wild mammals.
His parents' reactions varied, with his father dismayed but his mother supportive until a snake caused chaos.

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Family Links to Dylan Thomas

Carl's grandfather, a butcher, inspired a character in Dylan Thomas's Under Milk Wood.
The playful teasing between his grandfather and Dylan Thomas showed the family's connection to Welsh culture and literature.

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Professor Carl Jones is a conservation biologist who is best known for saving the Mauritius kestrel from extinction. He is the scientific director of Mauritian Wildlife Foundation, chief scientist at Durrell Wildlife Conservation Trust and an honorary professor in ecology and conservation biology at the University of East Anglia.

He was born in Carmarthen in Wales and was fascinated with animals from an early age, rearing rescued common kestrels, owls and hawks in his back garden. He studied biology at North-East London Polytechnic and, after learning about the plight of the Mauritius kestrel, he was determined to go out to the country to try to save the bird.

He arrived in Mauritius in 1979 when there were only two known breeding pairs left in the wild. By the time he left in 1999 he’d established a captive breeding programme and today hundreds of Mauritius kestrels fly over the islands where he spent decades pioneering his, sometimes controversial, methods. Today the Mauritius kestrel is the national bird.

He is also responsible for saving from extinction three species of reptiles, a fruit bat and several plants.

He was appointed an MBE for his work in 2004 and in 2016 he won the prestigious Indianapolis Prize – the world’s leading award for animal conservation.

Carl lives in Carmarthen with his wife and two children and assorted animals including two Andean condors called Carlos and Baby.

DISC ONE: Prokofiev: Peter and the Wolf Opus 67 - The London Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Sir Adrian Boult DISC TWO: Under Milk Wood by Dylan Thomas. Narrated by Richard Burton and performed by Meredith Edwards, Gwenllian Owen and Gwenyth Petty DISC THREE: Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll - Ian Dury DISC FOUR: La Rivière Noire - John Kenneth Nelson DISC FIVE: Asimbonanga - Johnny Clegg & Savuka DISC SIX: Sega lakordeon – Rene oule bwar mwa - La Troupe de l’Union DISC SEVEN: Londonderry Air - Beatrice Harrison DISC EIGHT: Clear Sky - Catrin Finch

BOOK CHOICE: The Collected Works of Dylan Thomas LUXURY ITEM: Binoculars CASTAWAY'S FAVOURITE: Asimbonanga - Johnny Clegg & Savuka

Presenter Lauren Laverne Producer Paula McGinley