Dr. Peter brings you inside the inner world of so many parents, spouses, children, and siblings of those who died by suicide. Through an imagination exercise, research, quotes from family members, and the Internal Family Systems model of the person, he invites you to a deeper understanding of other others experience a loved one's suicide.
Lead-in
1. The world is full of ‘friends’ of suicide victims thinking ‘if I had only made that drive over there, I could have done something.’ —Darnell Lamont Walker an artist; a writer, photographer, painter, and filmmaker.
1. Ok, so we're continuing to discuss suicide here, we're taking on the tough topics
1. And I want to start with a caution -- if you have lost a loved one to suicide, this episode may be really healing but it also may be really difficult. If you are raw and struggling with a death, be really thoughtful about when and how you listen to this. Pay attention to your window of tolerance and if it's too much right now, know that I respect that and I invite you to approach this topic in a way that is right for you, with help from a counselor, a spiritual director, a trusted friend, somebody you know.
1. Also, this imagination exercise will be hard to really get into if you're driving or engaged in other activities. You can try it, but it's going to be really emotionally evocative for many people. I suggest that you create a good space to engage with
1. Imagine looking through your front window and seeing a police cruiser pull up. One uniformed police officer gets out and a woman in plainclothes and they slowly walk to your door. They ring the doorbell. You open the door. The officer removes his hat and tucks it under his arm. The man seems nervous and clears his throat. The woman introduces herself and tells you she is the victims' assistance coordinator or something like that for your county. She asks your name. You give it. She asks if they can come inside and talk with you. "We have very difficult news for you," she says with sympathy in her brown eyes. Your heart stops beating. The officer looks away, he looks like he'd be anywhere else, rather than here with you. You let them in, now only vaguely aware of your surroundings, the shape your living room is in right now.
1. From the couch, in a gentle, matter-of-fact and very calm manner , the victim service coordinator tells you that the one you so love, you so cherish in the world is dead. She names the name. Yes, it's verified. Yes, there is no mistake. How, how did this happen you ask. The officer explains the details of the citizens' reports called in earlier in the day. He was the first law enforcement officer on the scene, got there just before the EMTs, he had photographed the body, taken notes, conducted the brief investigation. His throat catches. There are tears in his eyes. He hates this part of the job. He tells a few details of the suicide scene. You need to know this, he says, I'm required to tell you. The woman reaches out her professional hand to you, offering her version of compassion.
1. Observe what's going on inside you right now, as you enter into this scene in your imagination. What is happening in your body, your thoughts, you emotions, your impulses, your desires? Let yourself enter into this experience
1. The victims' assistance coordinator is discussing a few details "Things I have to tell you" she says. Standard protocols in situations like this. Something about confirming the identity in the morgue, something else about an autopsy. Something about who you can lean on in your support network family and friends. Something about how hard this all is to take in at once. And there are some government forms to fill out. And a very nicely designed brochure entitled "Surviving the Loss of a Loved One to Suicide" that you get to keep for handy reference. Do you have any questions at this point she asks? Yes, we are sure it's your loved one. The identification was very clear, there is no mistake.
1. Stay with this experience for just a minute if you can without losing your grounding.
1. See if you can just accept what's going on inside -- and acceptance doesn't necessarily mean endorsement -- see if you can accept what's going on inside and really experience it -- the feelings, the impulses, the assumptions, the thoughts, the beliefs, the implications, whatever is coming up.
1. Do you notice different parts within you? Different modes of being, maybe different messages coming to you?
1. You may just have experienced a taste, a sip of the cup that 300,000 parents, siblings, children and spouses of those who die by suicide experience each year in the US, and millions worldwide. Hang on to what you learned about your reactions, keep it in mind as we dive deep into suicides devastating impact on those left behind. [Cue Intro Music]
Opening
1. Welcome to the podcast Interior Integration for Catholics, thank you for being here with me, it is good to be here with you, I am glad we are together as we face this difficult topic of suicide. In episode I am clinical psychological Peter Malinoski and you are listening to the Interior Integration for Catholics podcast, where we take on the toughest topics, the most difficult and raw themes that many people want to avoid. Interior Integration for Catholics is part of our broader outreach Souls and Hearts bringing the best of psychology grounded in a Catholic worldview to you and the rest of the world through our website soulsandhearts.com
1. This is the fourth in our series on Suicide.
  1. In episode 76, we got into what the secular experts have to say about suicide.
2. 1. In episode 77, we reviewed the suicides in Sacred Scripture, in the Bible.
3. 1. In the last episode, number 78, we sought to really understand the phenomenological worlds of those who kill themselves -- what happens inside? How can we understand suicidal behaviors more clearly, dispelling myths and gripping on to the sense of desperation and the need for relief that drives so much suicidal behavior.
4. 1. Today, in Episode 79, released on August 2, 2021 we will take a deep dive into the devastating impact of suicide on those left behind. We'll go deep into the internal experience of the parents, spouses, children, siblings, and friends of those who killed themselves to see how they experienced suicide.
6. Alison Wertheimer: A Special Scar: The Experiences of People Bereaved by Suicide said this: [Suicide] has often far-reaching repercussions for many others. It is rather like throwing a stone into a pond; the ripples spread and spread. Now, Alison, with all due respect, I think you're totally wrong about that. It's not just ripples from a stone in a pond. For the spouses, parents, children, siblings and friends who are left behind to deal with the impact of a suicide it's more like a tidal wave resulting from an underwater earthquake than ripples from a stone.
7. Linda Lee Landon -- Author of Life after Suicide said this, which is much more on the money: Suicide creates a monstrous emotional upsurge of sha...

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