The glass has very much been smashed on emergency Jane and she's settled in for the week. Jamal and Fi chat playing shops, influencer culture and L.A. Law.

Plus, author of 'Wild Swans' Jung Chang discusses her sequel 'Fly, Wild Swans'.

We've announced our next book club pick! 'Just Kids' is by Patti Smith.

You can listen to the playlist here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3qIjhtS9sprg864IXC96he?si=uOzz4UYZRc2nFOP8FV_1jg&pi=BGoacntaS_uki.

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Joy, the corkscrew (with Jung Chang)