Is meat bad for you? Or is it a superfood healer? Does it cause heart disease, or is it the ultimate nutrition? Are organ meats particularly...the most nutrient-dense foods on our planet?

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Nutriomics study comparing fake meat to beef: https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-65066/v2

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