Did you have rules growing up? As the eldest child, I definitely had some of the ‘good in theory’ rules that my mum and dad were testing out as new parents. But there are rules, and then there are rules. Dr. Caroline Heldman’s past is part of what fuels her work. Today, she’s an academic, an author, and an activist, and she joins me to share her views on being a force for change in this world. Get‌ ‌book‌ ‌links‌ ‌and‌ ‌resources‌ ‌at‌ https://www.mbs.works/2-pages-podcast/  

Caroline reads ‘On Being White ... And Other Lies,’ an essay by James Baldwin that was published in Essence. [reading begins at 16:22] 

Hear us discuss: 

“Whiteness is constructed by rejecting and debasing blackness.” [20:07] | Recognising the power of privilege. [23:19] | What it means to be an activist: “Taking action for social change is why I’m here on this planet.” [26:44] | “I’m all about the cause. I don’t want the title; I don’t want credit. I don’t care, as long as the culture shifts.” [33:31]