S3 E46. Charlie Kirk, Israel, and Jews

(I’m editing and finalizing this podcast in an airport. So please excuse any small glitches or errors today. I thought it important to get this podcast out asap.)

Most people may have heard of Charlie Kirk in passing before he was assassinated on September 10, but if you are not “Gen Z” you likely didn’t know much about him. I certainly didn't - until a few months ago when he hosted a debate at one of his Turning Point conferences. The discussion focused on whether America should support Israel and featured Josh Hammer - our STLV guest today - and Dave Smith, a “comedian” turned geopolitical expert. You can find the link to that podcast below, in the notes. It’s worhh to watching.

Josh had a long conversation with Charlie and a few others on the night before his murder. They discussed a range of issues relating to Israel, antisemitism and Jews. Charlie was preparing. He told Josh that 50% - FIFTY PERCENT - of the questions he dealt with these days were about - Jews. That is astonishing.

Turning Point is an advocacy organization founded by Kirk which over the years has become one of the most influential political groups in America and, possibly, beyond. Not until his death did the extraordinary reach of this young man become apparent to - the masses. He had certainly made a name for himself among young Americans, touring relentlessly to speak and engage on critical issues: social, foreign, and economic policy. He angered many and affirmed others. He opened and probably closed minds. Charlie was tenacious, hardworking, sincere, and head strong. He was unwavering in his beliefs. All of them. Recently, he had also come under attack by more than the usual detractors. Very big names in the podcast world - with millions of followers - turned on Kirk. They accused him of being a stooge for Israel. Some said he was rethinking his support for Israel and Jewish people and more than suggest that this angered the “wrong people.” Blame the Jews.

Since his brutal death they’ve doubled down. It’s beyond ghoulish.

I was shaken and shocked when I heard about Kirk’s murder. A young man. Earnest. Engaged. A husband and father. Gunned down while speaking to a group of students, as his wife and children watched. That our society has become so hateful, so dumb, so violent, should make us all stop. Think. And then think again. No bad pun intended but Kirk’s assassination may well mark a turning point for America and western civilization. This epic war being waged on the foundational values of western liberal democracy is real. Dangerous. And could well destroy our way of life if we do not wake up. That was Charlie’s message as well. I share some - but not all - of his views.

But that’s irrelevant. This isn’t about me.

What kind of world do we want to live in?

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Josh Hammer is the author of the new book, Israel and Civilization: The Fate of the Jewish Nation and the Destiny of the West. He is the senior editor-at-large of Newsweek, a syndicated columnist, and a fellow with the Edmund Burke Foundation and the Palm Beach Freedom Institute. He also hosts The Josh Hammer Show, a Newsweek podcast and syndicated radio show. A frequent pundit and essayist on political, legal, and cultural issues, Josh is a constitutional attorney by training and additionally serves as senior counsel for the Article III Project.

Josh has been published by the Los Angeles Times, the New York Post, The Telegraph, the Daily Mail, U.S. News & World Report, National Review, First Things, National Affairs, American Affairs, the Claremont Review of Books, The New Criterion, City Journal, Public Discourse, Tablet Magazine, Deseret Magazine, The Spectator, Fortune, Fox Business, The Times of Israel, The Forward, and the Jewish Journal. His legal scholarship has been published by the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy and the University of St. Thomas Law Journal. Josh is a college campus speaker through Young America's Foundation and the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, and a law school campus speaker through the Federalist Society.

Josh graduated from Duke University, where he majored in economics, and from the University of Chicago Law School. He lives in Florida with his wife and daughter, and he also remains an active member of the State Bar of Texas.

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