The InfoQ Podcast Continuous Deployment and Pair Programming for Lean Software Delivery Even Without Jira
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Aug 11, 2025 Asgaut Mjølne Söderbom and Ola Hast, seasoned developers from Sparebank1, dive into their transformative journey towards continuous deployment and pair programming. They discuss the innovative 'waste clock' method for pinpointing process inefficiencies and emphasize the cultural shifts necessary for agile success. By sharing their insights on tackling challenges in a Kubernetes environment, they highlight the importance of collaboration, trust, and maintaining code quality while adopting a decentralized team structure. Discover their fresh approach to agile, free from traditional task management tools like Jira.
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Developers Who Love Programming And Culture
- Asgaut and Ola emphasise they love programming and focus on clean code and team culture.
- They moved from coding roles into shaping culture and cross-team collaboration over recent years.
Leadership Embraced Lean From Start
- Leadership adopted lean principles since 2012, prioritising respect for people and continuous improvement.
- Ola credits managerial tech-minded support for enabling deep cultural and process change.
The 2430 Stretch Goal
- They set a stretch goal called "2430": 24 hours from idea to production and 30 minutes from finished code to production.
- That target forced both technical and cultural changes across development and operations.
