What’s the real difference between passion and obsession? Hall of Fame ski mountaineer Mike Marolt sits down with Michael Chernow to dig in.

Mike has spent over 30 years climbing and skiing 60+ of the world’s highest, most remote peaks. Coming from a family of Olympians, he’s seen how chasing greatness can fuel purpose—or spiral into obsession. For Mike, it’s always been about the journey, not the destination. And considering he’s repeatedly put himself through some of the toughest, coldest, gnarliest expeditions on Earth… that says a lot.

This episode is about finding your why, building sustainable passion, and creating routines that keep you grounded—whether you’re skiing death-defying peaks, building a business, or simply trying to live a more meaningful life.

TIMESTAMPS:

4:31 The biggest challenges Mike has faced on his ski mountaineering journey1

8:45 Why passion is a state of mind (not just an outcome)

30:02 Mike’s daily “coffee talk” routine with his wife

39:27 Seasonal wind-down routines for balance

44:12 The power of reflecting on your day

52:37 How to unearth and nurture your passion

If you’re chasing goals, trying to avoid burnout, or just looking for inspiration from someone who’s literally lived life on the edge—this one’s for you. And if you loved the show, be sure to rate, review, and share with someone else that’d love it too! See you next week, Kreatures!

NEW - GAR ALPEROVITZ - What will replace corporate capitalism in the US?