The Ben Shapiro Show

Ben Shapiro & Matt Fradd Discuss Porn, Lust & Sexual Desire

May 22, 2023
Matt Fradd, host of Pints with Aquinas and author of The Porn Myth, dives deep into the moral implications of pornography and the nuanced definitions of lust. He discusses the dangers of objectification in sexual desire and emphasizes the need for fidelity in thoughts and actions within relationships. The conversation also highlights the complexities of marital intimacy, exploring how love and lust intersect while underscoring the importance of personal dignity and communication. Fradd's insights provoke thought on the intrinsic value of individuals in a sexually-driven culture.
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INSIGHT

Lust Definition Discrepancy

  • The speakers realize their disagreement about lust stems from differing definitions.
  • Ben Shapiro believes one definition focuses on treating a woman solely as a sex object, ignoring her autonomy.
ANECDOTE

Prager Family Anecdote

  • Dennis Prager's father read Playboy, and his mother knew and didn't mind.
  • Ben Shapiro and Matt Fradd agree this act is still wrong, even with consent.
ADVICE

Focus on Ideal Love

  • Avoid justifying lesser perversities by comparing them to worse ones.
  • Focus on how to love your wife best and become a better man instead.
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