The Ben Shapiro Show cover image

The Ben Shapiro Show

Ben Shapiro & Matt Fradd Discuss Porn, Lust & Sexual Desire

May 22, 2023
Matt Fradd, host of Pints with Aquinas and author of The Porn Myth, dives deep into the moral implications of pornography and the nuanced definitions of lust. He discusses the dangers of objectification in sexual desire and emphasizes the need for fidelity in thoughts and actions within relationships. The conversation also highlights the complexities of marital intimacy, exploring how love and lust intersect while underscoring the importance of personal dignity and communication. Fradd's insights provoke thought on the intrinsic value of individuals in a sexually-driven culture.
21:05

Episode guests

Podcast summary created with Snipd AI

Quick takeaways

  • Pornography reduces individuals to their sexual value and objectifies them, emphasizing the importance of treating others as subjects and safeguarding their honor.
  • Lust can exist within marriage if one views their spouse solely for sexual gratification, underscoring the need for moral maturity and aligning desires with true love and mutual respect.

Deep dives

Pornography as an intrinsically evil and sinful act

In a podcast episode, Matt Fradd and Ben Shapiro discuss their views on pornography, both agreeing that it is an evil and immoral act. Fradd argues that pornography is intrinsically evil, not only when consumed outside of marriage, but even within the confines of marriage. He emphasizes that lust, which he defines as a disordered desire for sexual pleasure detached from procreative and unitive ends, objectifies individuals and reduces them to their sexual value. Fradd highlights the importance of treating others as subjects and safeguarding their honor, rather than prioritizing personal pleasure at all costs.

Get the Snipd
podcast app

Unlock the knowledge in podcasts with the podcast player of the future.
App store bannerPlay store banner

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode

Save any
moment

Hear something you like? Tap your headphones to save it with AI-generated key takeaways

Share
& Export

Send highlights to Twitter, WhatsApp or export them to Notion, Readwise & more

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode