

Episode 479: The Lady Vanishes (trailer)
Aug 4, 2025
The hosts dive into a bizarre lawsuit involving Emmanuel and Brigitte Macron against Candace Owens, who claims Brigitte is part of a wild conspiracy. Next, they explore an unconventional romance between a teacher and her young student, tackling societal views and cultural norms. The conversation gets even more intense as they navigate heartbreak and insecurity, sharing personal stories infused with humor about jealousy and infidelity. It's a rollercoaster of legal antics and complex human emotions!
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Macrons' Early Relationship
- Brigitte Macron was Emmanuel Macron's teacher and married to a banker when they met.
- They fell in love when Macron was just 15 and faced strong social and family pressures.
Husband Leaves After Affair Discovered
- Brigitte's husband left town after discovering her relationship with young Macron.
- The personal turmoil was intense, symbolizing deep existential crisis triggered by this age-gap affair.
French Sexual Morality Context
- France's sexual morality has unique, complex rules that make Macron's teenage affair unusual but not uncommon.
- This cultural context adds nuance to how such relationships are perceived in France.