The Atheist Experience The Atheist Experience 29.50 with Justin and Godless Engineer
Dec 15, 2025
Justin and Godless Engineer engage in lively holiday banter before diving into a debate format with callers. They challenge the notion of first causes and dissect the meanings behind claims of divine qualities. The hosts humorously dismiss a geology-based proof while exploring the secularization of Christmas traditions. A skeptical caller questions Jesus' birth, and the discussion shifts to the similarities between Jesus' resurrection and ancient myths. The episode wraps up with insights on cognitive dissonance and a light-hearted farewell.
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Reframing The Nativity As Coercion
- Justin reframes Jesus' conception as a coercive act, arguing Mary lacked consent and highlighting power imbalance.
- This provocative framing challenges sentimental origin narratives and reframes theological claims as moral problems.
Always Define Key Terms First
- When callers present arguments, Justin and John ask for precise definitions before evaluating claims.
- Define key terms like "quality" or "greater" to avoid equivocation and make critique possible.
First Cause Doesn't Imply God
- Callers often recycle the classical 'first cause' or causation arguments without rigorous definitions.
- Hosts note that even if a first cause existed, it need not be a deity and requires extra justification.