Gogo Nomsa Sibeko, a traditional sangoma healer in South Africa, joins Robbie to talk about this rich tradition and - much like hunters - the many times inaccurate perception around them that comes out of Hollywood and movies. Robbie met Gogo back in November at the Custodians conference and was fascinated by her and the fact that she is facing the same stigmas as hunters are - that we pillage the environment for our own good. Along with her views on sustainability (she needs natural resources for her craft), Gogo discusses the human pressures surrounding them, and more!

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• https://www.patrolling.org/the-commodification-of-wildlife/ 

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