Journalist and author Helen Russell joins Zibby to discuss her latest book, How to Be Sad, and her research on how leaning into our sadness can actually lead to true happiness. Helen and Zibby talk about why we are often our most creative and grateful while upset, where there are still gaps in brain activity research, and ways to cultivate a healthy emotional environment with your kids.

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Helen Russell, HOW TO BE SAD: Everything I've Learned About Getting Happier by Being Sad