I Don't Speak German, Episode 21: Sex and Gender and Nazis (with CV Vitolo-Haddad)
Jun 13, 2019
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CV Vitolo-Haddad discusses sex, gender, misogyny, and transmisogyny on the far right. They delve into toxic masculinity in the Proud Boys, distorted beliefs of the alt-right, and societal pressures on nuclear families. The conversation also touches on 'NoFap', men's suffering in patriarchy, and future podcast plans.
Toxic masculinity in the Proud Boys is fueled by a distorted view of manhood rooted in American/Western culture.
Exclusionary ideologies within the far-right movement demonize LGBTQ+ communities.
Rigid gender roles in family dynamics perpetuate harmful ideals within the Proud Boys.
Right-wing movements offer certainty in rigid gender norms as solace amid societal uncertainties.
Deep dives
Manifestation of Toxic Masculinity in Right-Wing Movements
Toxic masculinity is prominent in the Proud Boys as they define manhood through pain and violence, advocating for breaking hearts and being violent. This distorted view of masculinity is rooted in American/Western culture. The idea that men have to endure immense pain and aggression to prove their manhood is deeply ingrained within this movement.
Emphasis on Violence and Demonization of LGBTQ+ Community in Right-Wing Ideologies
Proud Boys illustrate distorted masculinity through advocating aggressive behavior. There is a focus on violence in proving manhood, enforcing toxic norms. Intolerance towards the LGBTQ+ community, fueled by narratives like those in the Daily Shoah, demonizes alternative gender expressions and sexuality, pushing exclusionary ideologies.
Impacts of Gender Norms on Family Dynamics and Child Rearing
The Proud Boys perpetuate stringent gender roles in family dynamics, where sons are indoctrinated into hyper-masculinity. Methods like 'bully siding' are used to enforce traditional masculinity, suppressing gender expression diversity. Parents enforcing rigid gender norms on children, particularly sons, perpetuates harmful ideals within the family.
Role of Ideological Certainty in Shaping Right-Wing Masculinity
In right-wing movements like the Proud Boys, certainty in rigid gender and social norms provides a sense of identity amid societal uncertainties. The emphasis on righteous violence as a key aspect of manliness offers a simplistic answer to complex socio-political challenges. Ideological clarity and rigid beliefs offer solace amid personal and societal uncertainties, reinforcing violent behavioral patterns.
Stereotypical Norms and Psychological Constructs in Right-Wing Gender Ideologies
Right-wing masculinity promotes adherence to aggressive behavior as a measure of manliness, with a focus on breaking hearts and displaying physical violence. The concept of achieving manhood through endurance of pain, embedded in misconceptions of masculinity, negatively impacts individual development and societal interactions. The normalization of toxic masculinity in right-wing circles perpetuates harmful gender ideologies, contributing to intolerance, aggression, and gender-based bias.
Masculinity and Violence in Far-Right Circles
Many far-right individuals, like the Proud Boys, glorify violence and masculinity as a means of asserting dominance and redemption. The elevation to higher status through violent acts serves as a way to prove worth and attract female companionship. This hyper-masculine narrative is reinforced by iconic figures like Ethan Nordine and Kyle Chapman, portraying violence as a path towards societal esteem and male prowess.
Roles of Women in the Far-Right Movement
Women in the far-right movement are often categorized into support roles or portrayed as even edgier and more extreme than male counterparts. From traditional wives emphasizing child-rearing and homemaking to figures like Emily Eukis embracing extreme ideologies, women navigate distinct paths within the movement. The movement's inherent patriarchy leads to a narrative where women's self-worth is deeply tied to male validation and perpetuates harmful stereotypes and expectations.
Another great guest this week. Daniel is joined by CV Vitolo-Haddad to talk about sex, gender, misogyny, and transmisogyny on the far right.
(Note: This is late; sorry about that. Also, we encountered technical difficulties with this one. It's been cleaned up as much as possible and is perfectly listenable if you're prepared to briefly tolerate some occasional background noise.)
