Liberal candidate wins Wisconsin Supreme Court election

Michael Binyon, a foreign affairs specialist for The Times, discusses the implications of a liberal victory in the Wisconsin Supreme Court election and its potential impact on U.S. politics. The conversation also touches on Marine Le Pen's legal challenges amid a shifting political landscape in Europe. Joining him is Matt Ridley, a science writer and author who dives into the fascinating world of sexual selection, including insights from his book on black grouse mating rituals and the evolutionary significance of beauty in the animal kingdom.