S4 Gabby Logan: ‘The grief never really leaves, you just learn to make friends with it’

This week Elis and John speak to broadcaster Gabby Logan about the loss of her brother Daniel at the age of 15, how she’s coped in her professional life, and witnessing the Bradford City stadium fire in 1985.

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