Andrew Chadeayne, a chemist and patent lawyer, dives into the fascinating world of psychedelics. He explains the chemistry behind psilocybin and its psychoactive counterparts, debunking myths like 'lemon tekking.' Chadeayne discusses innovative drug development aimed at enhancing therapeutic benefits while minimizing hallucinogenic effects. He also explores the booming, unregulated market for products like kratom and synthetic psilocybin sold in vape shops, raising crucial questions about safety and regulation in this evolving industry.
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Magic Mushrooms' Complex Chemistry
Magic mushrooms contain multiple psychoactive molecules, not just psilocybin.
Different mushroom strains may have different effects due to their unique chemical compositions.
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Lemon Tek Explained
Lemon tekking doesn't convert psilocybin to psilocin chemically.
It works by extracting compounds, allowing faster absorption of active molecules.
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Understanding Mushroom Blue Bruising
Blue bruising on mushrooms indicates oxidized psilocin forming inactive compounds.
More blue means more of the active drug is degraded and unavailable.
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Episode Summary: Dr. Andrew Chadeayne discusses the chemistry of psilocybin and other psychedelics, their potential therapeutic applications, and the challenges of commercializing them in a shifting biotech market. The conversation delves into the complexities of magic mushroom composition, debunking myths like "lemon tekking," and uncovers the booming, unregulated alternative products industry, including kratom and synthetic psilocybin analogs sold in vape shops.
About the guest: Andrew Chadeayne, PhD is a chemist who also holds a law degree, specializing in patent law. He is the founder and CEO of CaaMTech, a startup specializing in the development of novel psychedelic compounds. Chadeayne collaborates with academic labs to advance psychedelic science while navigating the commercial landscape.
Discussion Points:
Psilocybin is a prodrug converted to psilocin, but magic mushrooms contain other psychoactive molecules like beta-carbolines, which may enhance effects by inhibiting degradation.
Chadeayne’s team develops psilocin prodrugs to shorten psychedelic trips, making clinical administration more manageable without altering effects.
The "lemon tek" myth—that lemon juice converts psilocybin to psilocin—is false; it enhances absorption by extracting compounds, not altering chemistry.
Magic mushroom bruising indicates psilocin degradation, as oxidized psilocin forms blue, inactive dimers.
The multi-billion dollar alternative products industry sells kratom and synthetic psilocybin analogs, often mislabeled, in vape shops, raising safety and regulatory concerns.
Kratom’s minor alkaloid, 7-hydroxymitragynine, is ~40x more potent than morphine, with no reported overdoses but high habit-forming potential.
Non-hallucinogenic serotonin 2A agonists, like those developed by CaaMTech’s spinout, show promise for conditions like migraines without requiring a psychedelic trip.
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M&M 71: Chemistry of Magic Mushrooms, DMT Analogues, Entourage Effects in Cannabis & Fungi, Novel Psychedelic Medicines, Psychedelic Startups | Andrew Chadeayne
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