Is Kubernetes actually creating the amount of cloud portability of infrastructure agnosticism that we hope it will? If we're using the same platform across multiple clouds, multiple infrastructures, multiple management teams, does that actually create portability? It's a key question for us in building cloud architectures, making decisions about the architect and about how we build architect applications, and even how we structure our teams. In this conversation, we get to the heart of answering that question, but our answers might surprise you. Transcript: https://otter.ai/u/ASE9dLnP8qo2jednZB5CoDhqLVc?utm_source=copy_url Image: https://www.pexels.com/photo/black-and-white-border-collie-puppy-in-brown-bucket-3908821/