Home Assistant Podcast

Home Assistant 2025.12: Labs, Smarter Automations, Real‑Time Energy and Frenck

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Dec 2, 2025
Frenck Nijhof, lead developer at Home Assistant and a key contributor to Open Home Foundation projects, joins to unveil the exciting features of Home Assistant 2025.12. He discusses the innovative Home Assistant Labs, purpose-specific triggers for smarter automations, and the revamped automation UI. Frenck also dives into real-time energy monitoring capabilities and the new Zigbee 4 integration. Plus, get insights on the implications of Matter.js joining the Open Home Foundation and the evolving landscape of pet tech.
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ANECDOTE

Taking The Smart Home When Moving

  • Frank removed all smart devices before listing his house to avoid burdening buyers and creating e‑waste.
  • He now lives with regular light switches and misses automation conveniences immediately.
ANECDOTE

ESPHome Replacing Arduino's Teaching Role

  • Frank expects ESPHome to grow beyond PlatformIO and possibly become the new teaching platform similar to Arduino.
  • He sees ESPHome's YAML approach as easier to teach than Arduino sketches.
ADVICE

Try Labs But Back Up First

  • Enable Home Assistant Labs to safely try preview features and give feedback.
  • Make a backup before enabling a preview feature to avoid surprises when disabling it later.
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