
Mythic Mind 117 - The Great Divorce
Nov 4, 2025
Explore the thought-provoking realms of C.S. Lewis's The Great Divorce. Delve into the chilling descriptions of the gray town, where hell warps goodness into empty imitations. Discover the contrast between self-enclosed minds and the expansive delight of heaven. Encounter ghosts as shadows of lost potential and the privation theory of evil. Hear about grace, the deceit of intellectual sins, and why vanity and shame intertwine. Experience profound themes of love, reality, and the choice between joy and control in a gripping journey through morality and redemption.
01:36:06
Dream As Moral Microscope
- C.S. Lewis frames The Great Divorce as conversations that reveal human self-enclosure and moral choices.
- The book uses a dream-supposal to illuminate moral psychology rather than to state systematic eschatology.
Hell Is Contextual Self-Enclosure
- Lewis repeatedly shows hell as the shrinking of one's context into self-centeredness.
- The more one contextualizes reality within oneself, the more one moves toward damnation.
Evil As Privation Of Being
- Ghosts are nearly nothing because evil is a privation of being, not a substantive force.
- Substantial spirits in heaven are more real and vibrant, revealing Lewis's metaphysics of being.
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Intro
00:00 • 10min
Setting up The Great Divorce and its purpose
09:35 • 2min
The Gray Town: Hell as perversion and isolation
11:27 • 2min
Contextualizing reality within the self
13:21 • 3min
Hell versus heaven: shrinking inward or expanding outward
16:38 • 6min
Ghosts and substantial spirits: privation theory of evil
23:05 • 4min
Grace versus rights: the murderer and his former boss
26:40 • 5min
Intellectual sins and honest opinions that mislead
32:03 • 10min
Real apples and the Christ-like waterfall
41:51 • 1min
Vanity, shame, and the need to feel shame rightly
42:56 • 7min
Why George MacDonald guides Lewis here
49:35 • 6min
Purgatory, choice, and how final states reflect paths
56:00 • 5min
Is hell a state of mind and heaven reality itself?
01:00:55 • 5min
Why most souls choose hell: preferring control to joy
01:05:41 • 3min
Religion without Christ and activity without love
01:08:46 • 5min
Art, legacy, and surrendering maps for the country itself
01:13:27 • 2min
Consuming love versus giving love: the unget motif
01:15:00 • 6min
Face to face: actor, dwarf, and true humility
01:21:24 • 8min
Hell's smallness and love's expansive reality
01:29:43 • 1min
Vision limits and the purpose of the supposal
01:31:04 • 2min
Outro
01:33:11 • 3min
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C.S. Lewis Goes to Heaven, A Reader's Guide to the Great Divorce
A Reader's Guide to the Great Divorce

David Clark
This book by David Clark provides a comprehensive guide to C.S.
Lewis's allegorical novel 'The Great Divorce.
' The guide offers readers insights into the symbolism, themes, and theological concepts explored in Lewis's work.
Clark delves into the historical and literary context of 'The Great Divorce.
' The book aims to enhance readers' understanding and appreciation of Lewis's exploration of heaven, hell, and the choices that determine our eternal destiny.
It helps to better navigate the complex layers of meaning within Lewis's narrative.

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It tells the story of Princess Irene, who lives a lonely life in a castle with her nursemaid, and Curdie, a young miner.
Irene discovers a magical world through her great-great-grandmother, who is invisible to others.
Together, Irene and Curdie thwart the goblins' plans to abduct the princess and flood the mines.
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The book divides humanity into two metaphorical cities: the City of God, characterized by devotion to God, and the City of Man, characterized by self-love.
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In 'Out of the Silent Planet', Dr. Elwin Ransom, a philologist, is kidnapped by his old school acquaintance Dick Devine and the scientist Edward Weston.
They take him aboard a spaceship bound for Malacandra (Mars).
Upon landing, Ransom escapes and encounters the planet's inhabitants, including the humanoid hrossa and the angelic eldil.
He learns that Earth is isolated from the rest of the solar system and eventually meets Oyarsa, the ruler of Malacandra.
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That Hideous Strength

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I. C. E. ), a sinister organization with totalitarian ambitions.
The novel delves into themes of faith, doubt, and the struggle between good and evil, featuring characters from the previous books in the trilogy, including Elwin Ransom.
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C. S.
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It follows Dr. Elwin Ransom's journey to the planet Perelandra (Venus), a world untouched by the fall of humanity.
Ransom's mission is to prevent the corruption of Perelandra's Eve-like figure, the Green Lady, by a possessed physicist named Weston.
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The poem delves into themes such as free will, obedience, revenge, and pride, and it portrays the complex characters of Satan, Adam, and Eve. Milton's work is known for its rich language, classical structure, and profound theological and philosophical insights.

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The Great Divorce


C.S. Lewis
In 'The Great Divorce', C.S.
Lewis presents an allegorical narrative where souls from a gray, dreary town (representing hell) are given the opportunity to visit heaven.
The story follows the narrator and various ghosts as they encounter spirits in heaven, engaging in dialogues that reveal the nature of their choices and the reasons they remain in hell.
The book emphasizes that hell is a self-imposed state, and individuals choose to remain there due to their inability to let go of their earthly attachments and sins.
Through these encounters, Lewis explores themes of redemption, the afterlife, and the importance of spiritual choices, underscoring that true joy and salvation are available to those who seek them sincerely.
We are continuing through the Fiction and Philosophy of C.S. Lewis course with The Great Divorce.
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