Ryan engages in a lively debate with Oren Cass on pressing topics like immigration and the economy. They critique the Democratic stance on immigration, discussing its impact on American workers. The conversation highlights shifting dynamics within right-wing politics, especially around labor and family policies. They also explore the challenges of navigating budget discussions between conservatives and progressives, alongside the need for a balanced approach to immigration and labor rights. Finally, they ponder collaboration between differing ideologies to strengthen the labor movement.