Michael Knowles, an insightful author and political commentator, engages in a spirited debate with Charlie about the distinctions between Protestantism and Catholicism. They explore the origins of the MAGA movement and share their observations on college campuses. The conversation turns to the complexities of faith and political fragmentation, with a critical look at the internal challenges within the Republican Party. They also discuss navigating personal beliefs and religious authority, particularly touching on contemporary issues like homosexuality and climate change.