This week Ben and Matt talk with the president of the Center for Congregations, Tim Shapiro. Tim shares his experiences as a senior pastor for 18 years and from his 18 years of experience at the Center. Congregational life has changed a lot over the last three decades but the news is not all bad. We'll discuss the bright spots, creativity and possibilities of the changing landscape.
Check out the resources mentioned on this episode here:
And in case you were wondering about the hare artistry done by Albrecht Durer, the link is below. Matt said it was a woodcarving but it's actually a drawing and watercolor. We're not afraid to say we we're wrong!
https://artsandculture.google.com/asset/hase/1QHEnzUGYMDG_w?hl=en
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