With both the election and polls getting closer, new research from Lifeway says a record number of pastors are refusing to say who they're voting for—even on an anonymous survey. Mike Erre says he wouldn't answer the survey either. His reason may surprise you. Phil explores how Pat Buchanan's 1992 presidential campaign was a harbinger of today's politics. And diversity experts featured in Matt Walsh's new documentary claim he lied to get them to participate in the film. Walsh says it's okay to lie for the greater good of winning the culture war. Is he right? Then, Kaitlyn interviews America's Government Teacher and social media sensation, Sharon McMahon, about her new book "The Small and the Mighty." McMahon says history can give us hope and resilience to live faithfully in our divided times. Also this week—Be careful, that's not an Oreo on the ground.

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1:05 - Intro

2:24 - Preview of The Esau McCaulley Podcast

5:36 - Show Starts

6:58 - Theme Song

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8:26 - Skye's New Hat

13:24 - News of the Oreo Butt

18:27 - LifeWay's Research on Pastors' Voting Polls

27:42 - Mike's Church Navigating the Political Divide

30:58 - The GOP's Slow Turn from Evangelicalism

42:41 - Has Anti-Immigration Sentiment Become Mainstream in Christianity?

51:00 - Matt Walsh's "Am I a Racist?"

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59:48 - Interview

1:01:34 - How Did McMahon Get Into Teaching History on the Internet?

1:06:55 - How Do You Engage Online Without Falling Into Outrage?

1:10:30 - What Is Your Most Important Work?

1:16:09 - What Is Your Capacity?

1:27:17 - Septima Clark

1:33:27 - Loving Your Enemies

1:39:16 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Oreo Spider Butts

https://boingboing.net/2024/09/14/trapdoor-ravine-spiders-butt-easily-mistaken-for-oreo-cookie.html

The GOP's Slow Turn from American Evangelicalism

https://religionnews.com/2024/09/18/the-declining-significance-of-religion-in-the-gop/?utm_medium=social

Half of Pastors Plan to Vote for Trump, Nearly a Quarter Wouldn't Say

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2024/09/trump-vote-pastors-evangelical-election-lifeway-survey/

How Far is Too Far?

https://wng.org/opinions/how-far-is-too-far-1726567683

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