19.40: An Interview on Tension with P. Djèlí Clark
Oct 6, 2024
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In this engaging discussion, author P. Djèlí Clark, known for his novella 'Ring Shout,' delves into the art of tension in storytelling. He shares his unique influences, from 'Birth of a Nation' to Beyoncé, and highlights the significance of food in worldbuilding. Clark also contrasts contextual and narrative tension, and reflects on how everyday absurdities can enhance a story's stakes. This episode features rich insights into emotional storytelling and practical tips, making it a treasure for writers seeking to deepen their craft.
P. Djèlí Clark explores the interplay between historical context and narrative discomfort to amplify emotional stakes and deepen reader engagement.
Food serves as a crucial element in Clark's storytelling, representing cultural identity and providing moments of respite amidst tensions.
Deep dives
Exploring Tension in Storytelling
Tension plays a crucial role in storytelling, as discussed by the guest, P. Jelly Clark. He emphasizes the balance between historical context and narrative discomfort, which he intentionally weaves into his writing. By drawing on historical elements, like the implications of D.W. Griffith's 'Birth of a Nation,' Clark creates a backdrop that amplifies emotional stakes within his fiction. This blend of historical accuracy and creative storytelling serves to enhance the tension experienced by readers throughout the narrative.
The Human Experience Amidst Oppression
Clark aims to depict the human experience through his characters, showing how their lives continue amidst societal oppression. He emphasizes the importance of portraying relatable, multifaceted characters who navigate love and friendship despite external challenges. For instance, the protagonist's interactions subtly reveal the warmth and complexity of human relationships in a world filled with dread. This juxtaposition allows readers to connect with the characters on a personal level, deepening the overall impact of the story.
The Importance of Cultural Context
Throughout the episode, Clark discusses how cultural context influences the effectiveness of tension within his narratives. He highlights the challenge of crafting stories that resonate with diverse audiences, particularly those unfamiliar with America’s historical struggles. By ensuring that both narrative and contextual tensions are present, he creates an accessible entry point for readers from various backgrounds. This approach not only invites further exploration of historical themes but also broadens the reach of his storytelling.
Food as a Storytelling Device
Food emerges as a powerful motif in Clark's storytelling, embodying both cultural identity and community. He discusses how shared meals become moments of respite for characters, allowing readers to experience the richness of their lives beyond conflict. This element creates a sensory experience, engaging readers' imaginations and heightening the emotional stakes when tension escalates. By using food to ground characters, Clark skillfully underscores the connection between daily life and larger struggles against oppression.
We sat down with the author of Ring Shout, P. Djèlí Clark, in order to wrap up our close reading of tension. We talked with Clark about his influences, which ranged from Birth of a Nation to Beyonce’s “Formation.” We dive into contextual vs. narrative tension, why food is the unsung hero of worldbuilding, and Clark’s unconscious desires that helped this novella come to fruition.
Thing of the Week: The Terror (on Netflix)
Homework: Watch Midnight Mass on Netflix. Notice how it builds various areas of tension. How did this happen? What were the different areas of tension, and how were they distinct from each other? Now use this in your own writing.
Credits: Your hosts for this episode were Mary Robinette Kowal, Erin Roberts, and Howard Tayler. Our guest was P. Djèlí Clark. It was produced by Emma Reynolds, recorded by Marshall Carr, Jr., and mastered by Alex Jackson.