Join me, Professor Jay Bhattacharya, as I sit down with Dr. Martin Kuldorff to discuss his journey through the COVID-19 pandemic. We cover the controversial Great Barrington Declaration, his thoughts on lockdowns, and the challenges he faced at Harvard. This conversation delves into the real impacts of public health policies and the importance of open scientific debate. Get an insider's perspective on one of the most debated health crises of our time Receive Exclusive Episodes & Q&A Content by joining our Substack Community: https://www.illusionconsensus.com/ Sponsors - Alcami Elements :https://www.alcamielements.com/ Receive 10% OFF first order or 30% OFF subscription order using code: ILLUSION -Brownstone institute: https://brownstone.org/