Bloomberg Talks

MARA's Fred Thiel Talks Bitcoin

Dec 16, 2025
Fred Thiel, Chairman and CEO of MARA, a leading bitcoin-mining company, discusses the current state of Bitcoin, which is experiencing its fourth annual decline. He believes this decline is a 'healthy retracement' and anticipates a strong comeback next year. Thiel links Bitcoin's movement to global liquidity and Fed policies while explaining why stocks and Bitcoin are diverging. He highlights traditional finance's growing acceptance of crypto and shares how MARA's unique vertical integration sets it apart in the mining industry.
Ask episode
AI Snips
Chapters
Transcript
Episode notes
INSIGHT

ETF Break-Even Acts As Price Support

  • Fred Thiel says Bitcoin is finding support near the $84,000 range tied to ETF break-even levels.
  • He views the recent decline as a healthy retracement driven by liquidity and rotation away from risk assets.
INSIGHT

Liquidity And Dollar Move Bitcoin

  • Thiel links Bitcoin's moves to global liquidity and U.S. monetary policy shifts.
  • He expects easing and a weaker dollar to be positive drivers for Bitcoin going forward.
INSIGHT

Derivatives Leverage Drove The Correction

  • Thiel highlights a large reduction in derivatives leverage from about $90B to $30B open positions.
  • He says the unwinding of leverage removed momentum and drained liquidity from Bitcoin's price run-up.
Get the Snipd Podcast app to discover more snips from this episode
Get the app