Why we had another baby in Mexico

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Today we’re going to go back in time more than 2500 years ago to the mid 500 BC. To the Kingdom of Kashi on the Ganges River in northern India. Now you might not have heard of the Kingdom of Kashi, a lot of people haven’t, but it’s actually quite historically significant for a couple of reasons that we’re going to get into. At the time, in the mid 500s, there was a guy in his mid thirty s, a guy that some of you might know. This name Siddharta Gotama.

 

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And if you don’t know his name, you will in a moment. But this is a person who was born into wealth and power and money and status and he renounced it all. As a young man he said, I’m not interested in the money. What I am interested in is spiritual enlightenment. And that might sound a little bit hokey today, but back then that was actually quite a popular social value.

 

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A lot of people said, you know, I want to seek spiritual enlightenment and their culture and their civilization. That was a prized value. And he walked away from all of his worldly possessions and decided that the way he wanted to do that, he was going to hit the road. And he became essentially a wandering beggar. And during that time he experimented with some really extreme conditions.

 

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At the time, in fact, there was a commonly held belief that if you starved yourself that eventually you would achieve spiritual enlightenment. And this seems crazy to us, but back then that was a common belief. That was the conventional wisdom, starve yourself to spiritual enlightenment. And he almost did. According to legends and the stories, there actually a period of time where he was so emaciated his bones were practically popping out of his skin.

 

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Until he finally realized, you know what, this isn’t working. And he stopped doing that. He realized, if I keep doing this, I’m probably going to die of starvation. And if I don’t die of starvation, I’m going to be so weak, I’m not going to be able to go a single step further and I’m never going to get to be able to achieve my goals. So he decided to find a better way and he applied what we would consider today, the scientific method.

 

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They didn’t call it that back then, but his whole approach was hypothesis, experiment, results. Look at the results, come up with some conclusions, and those conclusions then create, you know, form new hypotheses that we again experiment and analyze and so forth. And through that cycle, that scientific process, that scientific method, through that cycle, he created a body of knowledge, achieved his goals, and actually created a sciencebased evidence to show this is what actually works. And according to legend, in the year 528 BC, just a few miles from the capital city, again in the Kingdom of Kashi, on the road he came across five monks who were of this acidic discipline of self denial and extreme deprivation. And he came up to these guys, he said, fellas, I promise you it’s not going to work.

 

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I was in your shoes and I practically starved myself to death. That’s probably what’s going to happen to you. But here I had spent years and years coming up with a new system, a new method. Here’s all the evidence I can share with you, everything I can teach you what I know, everything that I learned, all the data, all the conclusions, and you can figure this out for yourself and help you achieve your own goals. And they said, oh my God, it’s perfect.

 

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And they became followers of his method. And again, according to the legend, this is now known as the first sermon of the historical figure that we now know as the Buddha. The Buddha obviously is a major icon in religion and philosophy, but in this respect, he was kind of like a modern day biohacker. Biohackers are people that have very specific goals, usually looking for some kind of medical or physiological optimization and experiment heavily, usually on themselves and do things taking the plunges and ice baths and those all sorts of things, red light therapy, all these sorts of things to try and advance the body of knowledge to seek physiological or medical optimization. The Buddha did the same thing.

 

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He hypotheses, experiment, results, conclusion, new hypotheses, new experiments for the goal of spiritual optimization. Different goals, but really the same process. Really all about the scientific method prior to that. If we go back even farther in ancient history, we see a lot of instances of, especially in science and even more particularly in medicine, where everything was governed by mythology and stories of somebody gets sick because they’ve been possessed by demons and all these sorts of things. But now, in the mid 500 to BC, there’s this flurry, this growth of progress in science, in particular medicine, because of the scientific method, and curiously enough, right here in the kingdom of Kashi.

 

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So the Buddha was actually the first example of this major figure here in the kingdom of Kashi. And the second was a guy that very few people have heard of, but really a very prominent person who factored heavily throughout history. He was a physician, a guy named Sharota, also in the kingdom of Kashi, right around the same time, by the way, in the mid 500s BC. This is a really big time for science and medicine in particular. And this guy Sharoo, a really, really, really impressive human being.

 

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This is a guy that was performing rhinoplasty, nose surgeries, I mean, lots of different types of surgeries and operations, but even, particularly rhinoplasties. 2500 years ago, he wrote a medical textbook. His body of knowledge, through his own experiences and his own experimentation had become so vast, he wrote a medical textbook that was so accurate and so insightful, it was actually used for thousands of years even up until a couple of hundred years ago. That’s pretty impressive feat when you think about it. So thousands of years of people think this is right, and even today, if you look at it, obviously there are things he didn’t have access to our equipment and technology.

 

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So there are things we can look at today, and we know that it was wrong. But it’s amazing at how much he got right. And his textbook covers so many things, ranging from obstetrics, neonatal care, dental hygiene. He talks about treating things like epilepsy, urinary tract infections, ulcers, snake bites, fractures, and dislocations. He made tremendous advances in the development and manufacture of medicines.

 

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Not one of these sort of Hippie medicine men that just crushes some herbs and says, Here, drink this. This was a guy that actually was able to specifically customize medicine and manufacture, produce it for specific ailments and treat them successfully. And he wrote about it in this textbook. Really, really impressive. And one of the more impressive things was actually, in addition to advancing the body of knowledge through the scientific method, was a standard of professional ethics.

 

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He had kind of a Hippocratic style oath, a professional standard. He would say, look, if you’re going to practice medicine, you don’t do it for yourself. You don’t do it for a financial gain. You don’t do it for your reputation. You do it solely for the good of the suffering people.

 

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If you’re not in it because you’re trying to help sick people, you just shouldn’t be in this profession. And of course, it was only a couple of decades later on the other side of the world, in ancient Greece, hippocrates would come along, and he would say, similarly, do no harm, which is still the Hippocratic oath that physicians take to date. Hippocrates another very impressive guy, very much based on the scientific method. Hippocrates was a guy who actually also said, you know what? Maybe we should look at the cause instead of just the solution and try and figure out if there’s something that’s causing a problem to the human body.

 

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Let’s just eliminate that problem. And Hippocrates was a guy who was a major advocate for diet and exercise. And he said, well, before we start cutting somebody open or pumping them full of medicine, let’s actually see what are you putting in your body that might be causing a problem, or maybe you actually just need to go for a walk or go climb go climb a mountain or something like that, get some exercise, and you’re probably better off. He’s a major advocate for diet and exercise. But overall, if you look and see a lot of these progressive, these advances in the ancient world, medicine was essentially a product of the scientific method and an ethos of patient first Hippocratic oath or the you know, even going back to ancient India to Sharuto saying, do it for the good of the people.

 

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The people that are sick. That’s the whole point. And, you know, in modern times, obviously, look, healthcare practitioners are great. It’s not a profession. It’s a calling.

 

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It’s obviously a calling. It’s a very noble calling. You have to think about the kind of person who wants, who’s willing to be, even be around sick people. I mean, that takes a very special kind of person to even be willing to be around sick people in the same way that you do that because you want to do it in the same way that a veterinarian becomes a veterinarian, because they want to help sick animals, doctors become doctors, nurses become nurses, because they want to help sick people and help people improve. It’s a very, very noble calling.

 

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But this product of the scientific method and the patient first ethos, it’s really been distorted over the years, particularly in recent years. And now what we see and again, this is really nothing about doctors and nurses and even medical researchers. It’s really about the giant bureaucracies that have taken over. I mean, we see now the insurance companies that are really in charge of the system, determining what they will and will not pay for and denying treatment, et cetera. And not just the health insurance companies, but the medical malpractice companies inundating people with the forms and the waivers and all that paperwork.

 

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A lot of that comes from medical malpractice because everybody’s terrified of frivolous lawsuits and so forth. Then, of course, there’s the government bureaucracies and so much of the stiff regulation, regardless of intention, a lot of this stuff obviously has very nice intentions. But despite the intentions, if you look at something like the Affordable Care Act the Affordable Care Act, Obamacare, they said, oh, there’s too many people who don’t have medical insurance. We need to fix that. And so they created this 900 page law that now, after more than a decade as well, what do we see?

 

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Well, health care costs have increased. Health insurance premiums have increased. Now even the number of people who are uninsured is increasing. Again, it was like the whole idea behind the Affordable Care Act was to reduce the number of people who didn’t have medical insurance. Now the number of uninsured is actually increasing.

 

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And you can look at a lot of studies. There’s actually a very interesting study by Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania that shows no clear evidence of any improved health outcomes whatsoever. There is no decrease in avoidable hospitalizations, no real decrease in mortality that can be linked to the Affordable Care Act. So what you have here is a lot of cost and not really any clear evidence of benefit. The end result here basically, is you end up with an extremely bureaucratic and expensive healthcare system that has sacrificed the patient first mentality, because again, you got the insurance companies and the government bureaucracies and big systems and so forth in charge of this, as opposed to simply the doctor and the patient.

 

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But in addition to this loss of patient first mentality, we also have to talk about the science end of it. Again, we talk about the ancient world very patient first and very reliant on the scientific method. And this is not I hope this is this isn’t any kind of conspiracy theory. I hope this is not taken as even a controversial statement. Research is about debate.

 

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That should be a noncontroversial statement. There’s obviously a lot of really great research happening and a lot of really brilliant researchers and new research comes out every day. And it’s exciting. But research is about debate and debate and further research. And rarely are arguments and debates able to be settled conclusively and quickly even to this day.

 

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I mean, literally, after thousands of years we go back to ancient India or Hippocrates. Even after all that time, there’s still no consensus among, let’s say, mainstream medicine of whether or not eggs are healthy for you. Different physicians in different fields have different opinions about this. And something as basic as whether or not eggs are healthy for you is kind of an indication about research and debate and really how important that is. And yet, a couple years ago, along came COVID and the public health experts and doing experts and air quotes, as always, asserted their authority over all of science.

 

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But then they actually failed to follow the scientific process. They failed to create hypotheses, conduct experiments, analyze the results of their experiments to come up with conclusions that would then form new hypotheses. Instead, they only looked at data which supported their sort of predetermined conclusions and they suppressed intellectual dissent of any other conclusion that disagreed with their own conclusions. And the famous example, obviously, the Great Barrington Declaration where a bunch of scientists got together and said this is a bad idea. Lockdowns are bad ideas.

 

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You’re going to destroy the children in particular are going to create major medical issues, mental health issues, substance abuse problems is a bad, bad, bad idea. We need to find a better way. And of course, in the United States, the public health authority said that we need to do a what was it? A quote? A quick and devastating published takedown of the Great Barrington Declaration.

 

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And wouldn’t you know it, now, three years later, we find that the science actually backs the Great Barrington Declaration. Just actually, I think the last week in the United States, the education system came out with its own report card showing how bad children in the United States and the education system has really how they’ve regressed as a result of the lockdowns. Academically, they’re behind socially, they’re behind mental health, et cetera. All the issues and again, the substitute problems, all the things that people predicted and the great barrier to declaration the results have completely vindicated their view. Has there been an apology?

 

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Have any of these public health people stood up and said, wow, we were totally wrong about that. We apologize to the people that we demonize in the Great Barrington declaration. No, absolutely not, because they never follow the scientific method. It was never about objectively forming hypotheses. And wherever the experiments, wherever the results took you, that was the conclusion you didn’t have.

 

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You didn’t have any skin in the game. You didn’t have any kind of political stake in it where we have to do this particular thing because it’s politically palatable or whatever the case may be, that you just follow the science. But they didn’t do that. They didn’t do that. And of course, the media is fully culpable in this whole circus.

 

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They turn vaccines and masks into political statements. They really helped descience the science. They elevated certain people into positions of power and authority that they never should have and all these things altogether. Again, the combination of the sort of dynamic of this, the polarization and then the reduction in this patientfirst approach has really created a regression in healthcare and healthcare outcomes, even in developed countries, including the United States. Now, I have a personal story with this.

 

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It’s been several weeks now, but not long ago, my father died, and my father died in a really terrible way. And he one day just he felt really bad. He felt kind of just fever, and it just wasn’t feeling well. And within about 24 hours, he got to the point where he was delirious and confused and was stuttering and stammering and didn’t know just basic things anymore. So they went to the emergency room, and the place they went to, the first hospital in this emergency room, completely failed to diagnose him, and they didn’t do anything.

 

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I mean, you think about a guy, especially in his age, in his 70s, walking into a hospital, delirious and confused, not even really sure who he is, where he is. You’d think they would have done that, would have triggered somebody to go, we should do some kind of imaging, check out his brain, and just actually do some real investigation here. But no, they didn’t do that. They sent him on his way, and they gave him a 13 page booklet of incredibly generic safety tips, things like make sure you wear your seatbelt when you drive and don’t smoke and don’t drink to excess and all these things. And my father wore a seatbelt, and he didn’t smoke and all these things.

 

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It’s like, how in any way is this helpful, but this is the sort of CYA, cover your ass, I don’t want to get sued liability nonsense that comes from a healthcare system that’s dominated by insurance companies and bureaucrats, as opposed to physicians who genuinely want to help patients. In no way. If there’s if the system was sort of run by, you know, physicians who generally want to help patients, would he have left that hospital? Certainly without being properly diagnosed? And what he ended up actually having was a very severe case of viral meningitis and encephalitis.

 

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A couple days later, he ends up back in the Er, this time at a different hospital. And the new hospital had just a whole bizarre series of their protocols. They would constantly rotate physicians in and out. This guy barely had the same doctor for more than 24 hours. And they all kept saying that they were following the protocol.

 

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Protocols, basically, it’s like a standard operating procedure. These are things that oftentimes come from big bureaucracies like the world health organization. They put up protocols to say, this is how you deal with XYZ disease or affliction or whatever. And so the physicians are all saying, oh, we’re following the protocol, and that’s policy, that they have to follow the protocol, and they’re just simply unable to break protocol. The problem, of course, is that if you break protocol and if you’re not following the protocol and something goes wrong and there’s a bad outcome for the patient, then the hospital gets sued and the physician gets sued and all these things.

 

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And so the insurance companies just won’t allow you to break protocol. They just keep following the protocol. Even though the protocol clearly wasn’t working. My father continued to get worse and worse and worse, and eventually he died. And wouldn’t you know it, what a coincidence.

 

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He died at precisely 1 minute after midnight, 1 minute after midnight, which actually meant that the hospital was able to build medicare for one more day because of that 1 minute into the next day into the next 24 hours period. So they had to build medicare for an extra day. And also, wouldn’t you know it, the cause of death was listed as COVID. So never mind the fact that he went to the hospital with encephalitis and meningitis caused a death was COVID. So my family and I were still dealing with this.

 

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We actually ended up having a private autopsy conducted. And there’s a lot of really bizarre things about this. I could go on and talk about this for a really. Really long time. But I think there are so many things I think it was a really terrible example of things that have just gone really wrong in the healthcare system that put limitations on physicians creativity and their ability to actually go out and fight disease.

 

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Creating really bizarre incentive structures and bureaucracies that are not patient first. And I think, frankly, my father was a victim from this. And again, we’re still dealing with this, and it’s really sad state of affairs, and I could talk about it for a long time, but I want to actually get to the good news of this. And in my time, as you know, all of you know, probably I’ve traveled to 122 countries, I’ve seen medical care, and many, many of them even experienced firsthand myself. And the way that I always think about health care and medical care and outcomes is I look at a number of things.

 

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I look at, for one, honestly, comfort is important. And my sort of best example of that is there’s a hospital in Thailand I’ve been to many times called Booming Boomerang International Hospital in Thailand. I’ve been to many hospitals in Thailand, and my experience with all of them has really been fantastic. I’ve had some even emergency care, urgent care issues there. I’ve gotten into accidents and things like that, where I’ve had to go into the Er and just really incredible level of care and comfort.

 

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Just boomer. Grad International looks more like a really nice hotel, honestly, when you go and check in, I mean, it’s just a really nice facility. It’s comfortable when you’re there. It’s not one of these places where you’re sitting on plastic chairs and steel tables and it feels really run down. It’s really advanced, super, ultra modern, very, very nice, comfortable place.

 

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There are plenty of places like that in the world, but that’s just an example. And I do think that’s important level of sophistication equipment, availability of drugs, these sorts of things. I mean, there are places around the world you’d be surprised. Actually, there was one time I was in Chile also with my parents. My mother fell down, broke her arm.

 

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We had to go to this little rickety clinic, and we were in this very, very rural area, and she broke her arm. She was in horrible pain. They didn’t have painkillers in this clinic. And that’s a hard thing to do, to watch my mother in that much pain and having to get her the bone reset and everything like that without any painkillers. It’s a really, really terrible experience for her, because that clinic, they just didn’t have that.

 

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And so the availability of things, basic things, really advanced things, it makes a really big difference. And the last thing, obviously, and probably the most important are the people. And when I talk to physicians, and actually the reason I wanted to talk about this is because my wife and I have now had two children here in Mexico, and Mexico really takes all these boxes. The hospitals have been very comfortable. The level of sophistication, the equipment, the things they have available are really great.

 

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The availability of drugs in some respects is even better than it is in North America. I remember one point my parents came down here, I think, last year, and my pops had forgotten a lot of some of his medication. They were able to find everything here in Mexico very, very quickly. Even stuff that was sort of more specialty medication. And so that really ticks the boxes.

 

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But the people also, and I interview physicians again, like I’m hiring somebody asked very detailed questions about their experiences and success rates and things like that. So with pregnancy, I interview somebody and talk about what kind of experiences you have. Tell me about patient outcomes. How many times have you how many pregnancy you’ve done, how many of them have kind of gone off the rails, or you had to do an emergency C section and these sorts of things to try and really get a sense of these. And to be honest, yes, education, all that stuff is obviously really important.

 

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You would be surprised, actually how many people overseas have studied in the US. Or Europe, or they’ve had fellowships or even board certifications in the US. And Europe. So there’s really a great amount of talent often hidden overseas when you wouldn’t even think about it. Another thing I really look for in people is, especially in doctors, is their availability and their flexibility, their willingness to have a conversation and not just dictate, this is how it’s going to be, but their availability.

 

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And that’s actually been one of the great things here in Mexico and a lot of other places. This is being able I mean, you get everybody’s phone number and you’re texting back and forth of them. You have questions, you know, text people, you have calls with them whenever they really make themselves available at all times, anytime. Very flexible. And again, willing to really customize listen to the patient and understand your needs and decide together what’s the best course of action, help basically educate and inform you.

 

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And it’s been a really, really good experience. And these are the ways that, again, that I like to assess quality of healthcare. I live in Puerto Rico, and that’s generally where I spend most of my time in Puerto Rico is great for a lot of reasons, but from a healthcare perspective, my own personal experiences, it’s been really, honestly, not a great place. And I could go into that for a while, but I’ll just for our own personal other people might say, oh, I have a great experience in Puerto Rico. That’s great.

 

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I had a terrible experience. My wife and I have consistently had pretty bad experiences. And so we knew, especially the first time that she got pregnant, we just didn’t want to have the baby in Puerto Rico. And that was actually a great decision for us because we had colleagues and friends that did have babies in Puerto Rico. We were hearing their stories about, you know, they were making mom wear a mask in the delivery room and keeping dad out of the delivery room and all these sorts of things.

 

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And that was one of the reasons why we decided to do in Mexico. We had an event for our Total Access group in our organization and Sovereign Man, which I guess now we call Sovereign Man. It’s our highest level group. And we had an event here in Cancun, Mexico, in early 2021. And after that part of that we actually talked about health care and medicine.

 

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I end up touring a hospital, touring a facility, and I thought, actually, everybody is nice. At least everybody is nice is the place that my father went in Texas, outside of Dallas, Texas, and it was a nice private hospital there. And the hospital here, it was a very, very nice hospital. Again, the availability of drugs, all these things in Mexico, we decided, okay, this is going to be our plan B for having the baby. And very quickly ended up being our plan A.

 

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We came to Mexico a couple of months later to have the baby. The lifestyle, I got to say, in Cancun was really special, really great. I mean, it’s just a nice place to be when you’re pregnant. It’s warm and sunny and it’s nice restaurants, nice lifestyle. In 2021 in particular, this is early 21.

 

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There was no COVID nonsense. We could just live our lives freely without having to worry about anything like that. And the birth that we had for our first child last year was an exceptional experience. The physician was by our side the whole time. Actually came over to our house initially and stayed with us the whole time.

 

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And we went to the hospital together, literally did not leave our side except to go to the bathroom for the entire labor. And it was just a really, really special experience. It was exactly as we wanted. There were a lot of complications along the way, really a lot of complications. But the physician was extremely skilled, and the whole team around her was extremely skilled.

 

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We were able to actually deliver the outcome we wanted, which was a natural birth to an extremely healthy baby, and everything was great. So when my wife got pregnant again last year, 910 months ago, we knew it was a no brainer to do it again exactly the same as we did the first time. So now that my son’s been born, a few weeks ago, we had a very similar experience. It was a fantastic frankly, was a little bit easier on my wife. That was a shorter labor, but it’s a really wonderful experience.

 

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Again, great hospital. They have all the equipment, the facilities, the medication. You can do the water, birth, all that stuff. And the team with a very, very, very impressive skill set. Things didn’t go exactly right.

 

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There were complications, and they were able to summon their skills and achieve exactly what we were looking for. And we have very healthy, strong baby boy, and everything was great. People always ask me how much this is really the meat of it is how much did you pay? Well, in the US. I found out, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation, which obviously has a significant background in healthcare, the average cost of baby delivery in the United States.

 

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And this actually doesn’t even include a lot of the things like the drugs and whatever else. And it certainly doesn’t include if there’s a cesarean, which is really on the rise. In the US. Kaiser Family Foundation estimates the average cost of delivering a baby in 2022 is 18,865. Now, I paid here at a private hospital in Mexico, $35,000.

 

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Technically 35,088 and 36. But that number is in Mexican pesos. So the actual number in US. Dollars is about one $750, $1,750. So that’s more than 90% less than what it would cost in the United States.

 

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So one $750. This is a private hospital with the presidential suite in the private hospital with a fantastic team and everything that you need soup, to, nuts, the whole nine yards, one $750. So if you can imagine me right now holding my thumb and my index finger together, making a small circle, channeling my inner pelosi, saying it costs nothing. It really is. It’s almost embarrassing how little it costs to have a baby in Mexico.

 

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And it was a really great experience. Very nice facility with very comfortable, nice facility. All the stuff that you would need with a really great team of people. Very knowledgeable, really had the skills, delivered the outcome that we wanted. And we paid 90% less than it would cost in the United States.

 

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One $750. What a deal. But if that weren’t enough, on top of all of that are the sort of extra benefits. And so, for example, under Mexican nationality law, all children born in Mexico are entitled to Mexican citizenship. So my kids are both Mexican citizens.

 

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My daughter already has her Mexican passport from last year. My son will get his in a couple of weeks. That’s on top of the additional four other citizenship that they get from mom and dad. But the cool part about Mexico as well is that if you have a kid in Mexico, the grandparents actually get residency. And we did this for my inlaws.

 

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My wife is Ukrainian, and we actually got my inlaws out of Ukraine, and they’re here in Mexico right now. We got them permanent residency. And in Mexico, that’s actually really nice benefit because permanent residency in Mexico is in fact, permanent. And it’s not anything that has to be renewed or anything like that. It’s permanent, it’s lifelong.

 

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It’s a really nice benefit. Obviously, parents of a child born in Mexico also get permanent residency. And on top of that, you also get fast track to citizenship. In just two years, you have to spend 18 months on the ground. But after two years, if you spend the 18 months in Mexico, you can apply for citizenship if you have a child in Mexico.

 

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So there are a lot of benefits. Again, talking about something that’s a great experience. It’s inexpensive, and you get all these other benefits. And before I leave, I just want to highlight this as an example of the ethos that we talk about so much on our website. Yeah, there are a lot of really bizarre things happening in the world.

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But the reality is that we do have a lot of control over our lives, the decisions that we make. We don’t need to be constrained by geography or idiotic politicians the world is a big place. It’s full of opportunity. There are so many possibilities, and you could really accomplish just about anything. You will absolutely accomplish whatever it is that you prioritize, and that starts with deliberate thinking and very deliberate decision making.

 

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I’m going to go ahead and sign from here. Really appreciate, as always, your time and attention, and we’ll see you again in the next episode.

 

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