Daniel Batton, a founder specializing in Bitcoin mining at landfills, discusses the adversities of fiat currency and its correlation with dictatorship. He traces our consumerist economy back to the 1920s propaganda and debates Bitcoin’s potential as a remedy. Batton highlights Bhutan's significant Bitcoin holdings and examines the sovereignty implications for small nations. The conversation also reveals innovative methods to transform waste into valuable resources through Bitcoin mining, pointing to a shift in global power dynamics and a brighter, more democratic financial future.
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Fiat's Incompatibility with Democracy
Fiat currency cannot coexist with democracy without eroding purchasing power and empire stability.
The natural partner for fiat is dictatorship, while Bitcoin aligns with democracy.
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Daniel’s Backwards Bitcoin Journey
Daniel Batton first studied Bitcoin mining before understanding its financial benefits.
He then founded a mining fund using landfill methane, moving to Costa Rica for the project.
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Mining Heat Saved Guy’s Home
Guy Swann heated his home using Bitcoin miners when his heating broke on the coldest days.
The miners kept his basement warm, demonstrating practical heat recycling.
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"Either you don't have a fiat currency or you don't have a democracy. But the two things together, and this has been proven, cannot coexist happily without the complete erosion of purchasing power of a civilization and the complete erosion of an empire - which is exactly what has occurred and what has occurred throughout history. The natural bedfellow for a fiat economy is a dictatorship. The natural bedfellow for bitcoin is democracy." ~ Daniel Batton
In this episode I sat down with Daniel Batton, who discovered Bitcoin's environmental benefits before grasping its economic power, and his journey reveals something profound about the nature of fiat money itself.
How did we become trapped in a desire-based economy that rewards consumption over saving? Daniel traces this back to the 1920s propaganda campaigns that transformed capitalism from meeting needs to manufacturing wants—and explains why Bitcoin might be the antidote to a century of psychological manipulation. But here's what really caught my attention: if the natural state of fiat is dictatorship, what does that mean for small nations trying to maintain sovereignty?
From Bhutan's quiet accumulation of Bitcoin worth nearly half their GDP to Pakistan's strategic pivot away from IMF dependency, we're witnessing a fundamental shift in global power structures. Are we watching the end of financial colonialism? And could Bitcoin mining on landfills actually turn the waste of Western civilization into the foundation for sound money? This conversation will change how you think about money, consumption, and what it really means to fix the incentives.
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