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Should we, people who remain married to justice, accept that international law, if it ever did work, is today defunct? In a broader sense, when we pursue its application are we in danger of creating a sense of false hope. These are the existential questions we are now asking ourselves as the genocide proceeds at pace into its 2nd year.

My guest today is Francesca Albanese, an international lawyer who has been in the eye of the storm, speaking truth at the highest levels. Francesca specialises in international humanitarian law and is the special rapporteur for the UN reporting on Palestine.

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Timestamps:

0:00 – Introduction

3:21 – Is international law the problem?

5:05 – ICC ruling, why the delayed decision?

7:07 – How effective are the ICJ judgements ?

9:54 – Who is the system working for?

11:05 – Is Francesca hopeful about international justice?

13:27 – David Lammy and the definition of genocide

16:51 – The reluctance of the West to call this a genocide

19:30 – Is October 7th a catalyst for ethnic cleansing?

26:03 – Can Israel be isolated by the UN?

29:27 – Arab and Muslim countries lack of solidarity

33:48 – How successful can the ICJ complaint be?

37:08 – Weaponizing of antisemitism

41:40 – How can young Muslims stay active?

44:45 – How does Francesca stay motivated in an unjust world?

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