The Nerve with Maureen Callahan

The Real Jon Hamm is Not Who You Think, Plus What Happens When "Mean Girls" Grow Up and Get Meaner

Apr 22, 2025
This conversation features Erin Foster, a behavioral analyst specializing in aggression and bullying, and Susannah Cahalan, bestselling author of "Brain on Fire" and "The Acid Queen." They delve into a shocking hazing incident involving Jon Hamm, revealing the darker side of celebrity culture. The duo also tackles the complexities of adult female friendships, illustrating how 'mean girls' can evolve and become more challenging over time. Through compelling anecdotes, they highlight the emotional impact of these dynamics and the importance of compassion in relationships.
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INSIGHT

Mean Girls Grow Meaner with Age

  • Mean girl behavior persists into adulthood fueled by deep insecurity and unresolved childhood wounds.
  • Female aggression often manifests as bullying seeking power and control over others.
ADVICE

Know When to End Friendships

  • Evaluate your friendship's authenticity, trust, and respect before addressing hurtful behavior.
  • If repair seems impossible or unwelcome, set boundaries and walk away to protect yourself.
ADVICE

Helping Kids Handle Bullying

  • Help children identify their self-worth and understand the motivations behind others' hurtful behaviors.
  • Teach them to feel compassion but also recognize unsafe people and walk away.
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