Sorry to leave you hanging after what you've been through. We opted for a lunchtime episode drop to bring you our number one boy, YOUR number one boy - 'Succession' creator and showrunner, Jesse Armstrong.

TODAY: Everything up to when it all goes to s**t

TOMORROW: The trauma. But more Jesse, too!

PS. Non-regular listener dipping in for the Jesse interview? The rest of it not for you? Great, but skip to about thirty minutes in instead of making Sara a HATE FIGURE on social media.

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