Su Lin Wong, a China correspondent for The Economist, shares insights into the political upheaval in Hong Kong, where pro-Beijing lawmakers dominate following a restrictive security law. She highlights the erosion of democratic processes and citizen rights. Meanwhile, Natasha Loader, the health policy editor, discusses the emerging role of T-cells in COVID-19 immunity, emphasizing their importance alongside new vaccine developments. The conversation also touches on the rise of psychometric testing in hiring, showcasing its impact on modern recruitment.