Episode Fifty-Two: Panel Discussion (Balabanov, Ellis, Hilliard, Cottee)

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Dec 19, 2024

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In a thought-provoking discussion, experts Stephanie Cottee, an animal behavior scientist, Stewart Hilliard, a behavioral neuroscientist, and legendary trainer Michael Ellis delve into the contentious AVSAB position statement on training methods. They challenge common misconceptions surrounding force-free and aversive techniques, highlighting the importance of a balanced approach to dog training. The panel emphasizes animal welfare, the psychological impacts on both dogs and their owners, and the need for evidence-based practices that advocate for resilience and a strong human-animal bond.

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Complexity of Aversive Training Effects

AVSAB's claim that aversive methods damage welfare and bonds oversimplifies complex training realities.
Responsible aversive use can enhance safety and relationships, contradicting blanket negative claims.

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Welfare Linked to Control & Predictability

Animal welfare depends on predictability and control, not just stress avoidance.
Stress is natural; effective coping skills define true welfare, beyond momentary reactions.

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Beyond Immediate Stress Responses

Welfare is about quality of life, not fleeting stress moments.
Resilience and recovery from aversive stimuli matter more than the immediate reaction.

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Welcome to the latest TWC podcast, where we challenge one of the most controversial and misleading documents in the dog training industry: the AVSAB position statement on training methods. Force-free trainers often uphold this statement as the ultimate authority, claiming it represents a scientific consensus that should dictate the industry’s practices. But we believe this statement is not only flawed but also dangerous and unethical. Today, we got together to examine its weaknesses and set the record straight!

Joining me are three exceptional experts with unparalleled experience in dog training, breeding, and behavioral science:

First, Stephanie Cottee, an animal behavior and welfare scientist, researcher, and co-owner of Black Kraken K9. Stephanie combines her scientific expertise with practical experience as a working German Shepherd trainer and breeder, bringing a unique perspective to the conversation.

Next, Dr. Stewart Hilliard, a behavioral neuroscientist with a PhD and 45 years of experience in training and breeding working dogs. Much of his career has been devoted to military dog training, establishing him as one of the foremost authorities in the field.

Finally, Michael Ellis, a legendary trainer with 45 years of experience. In the past Michael has spent over a decade giving seminars for police, sport, and search-and-rescue dog handlers. He’s the founder of the Michael Ellis School for Dog Trainers, which he has run for 15 years, and a breeder of exceptional Belgian Malinois.

Together, we dissect the AVSAB position statement, reveal its contradictions, and discuss the true science and ethics behind effective dog training.

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Ivan Balabanov is a 2-time World Champion dog trainer, Ot Vitosha Malinois breeder, trainer of Premier Protection Dogs and founder of the revolutionary Training Without Conflict® dog training system.

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