
The StoryBrand Podcast #48: How to Grow a Consulting Business in Uncertain Times
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Dec 1, 2025 Kris Jones, founder of Red Door Stories and a seasoned StoryBrand Certified Guide, teams up with Luke Pastina, Director of Certification, to dive into the nuances of growing a consulting business amidst economic uncertainty. They discuss the importance of uncovering clients' real problems through active listening and collaborative processes. Kris shares strategies for refining messaging, raising prices confidently, and building trust with potential clients through testimonials. Discover how storytelling can elevate your marketing approach in challenging times.
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Start By Listening To Their Words
- Meet the client where they are and ask targeted questions to surface the deeper problem they may not name.
- Use a magic-wand future-state question to reveal desired outcomes and underlying motivations.
Make The Client The Hero
- The StoryBrand story centers the client as the hero, not the founder or company origin story.
- You enter later as the guide to lead them toward transformation.
Design An Intake That Gets Useful Answers
- Use a clear, simple intake question with a short video to model the expected answer and reduce vague responses.
- Automate intake but follow up with a Zoom when answers are insufficient.



