

Episode 99 | Unlock Human + Machine Potential | Zac Engler
Jun 26, 2025
49:58
In this conversation I sit down with Zac Engler, founder of Bodhi AI, to talk about turning generative-AI hype into practical wins for smaller companies—and why “shadow-AI” bans often backfire.
We cover:
- The moment Zac realised a recruiter could build a full-stack product in three weeks for < $1 k.
- Tactical first steps for any team: discovery sprint → 30/60/90 quick-win plan → agentic workflows.
- The trifurcation of work (AI-only, human-in-loop, human-only) and how to spot the right bucket.
- Why vertical, hyper-niche agents will beat one-size-fits-all models.
- What an 18-month adoption window really means—and how to avoid being “automated chaos.”
Links:
Bodhi AI – https://bodhiai.io
Forbes feature: “AI’s Trifurcation of Work” – https://bit.ly/ZEForbes-AITrifurcation
Turning On Machines (Zac’s forthcoming book) – https://www.zacengler.com/buy-book
MN AI Tools directory – https://mnaitools.com
Connect with Zac: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zacengler/
Connect with me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregtoroosian/