Compounders Podcast A Century of Wealth Creation with Weston Hicks, CEO of Alleghany Corporation (NYSE: Y)
My guest on the show today is Weston Hicks, the CEO of Alleghany Corporation. Alleghany is a Fortune 500, $9.3B market cap company that focuses primarily on the insurance and re-insurance industry. Weston became CEO all the way back in late 2004 and since then, the company has grown its book value significantly and, like a mini-Berkshire Hathaway, has built up an interesting portfolio of non-insurance businesses that includes everything from a machine tool company to a toy company. And the Berkshire parallels don’t end there. Weston is a value investor at heart and is well known for his eclectic shareholder letters where he dives deep into the insurance industry and the capital markets as a whole.
Weston was a key driver of the company’s 2011 transformational merger with TransRe, a deal that established Alleghany as a global insurance powerhouse.
After close to 20 years with the company, Weston will be retiring at the end of this year. So, I thought it would be a great opportunity to talk to Weston before he officially leaves the CEO seat and get his insights and perspectives, on a variety of topics, including:
- His thoughts on what makes a compounder
- The benefits and the setbacks associated with the merger with TransRe
- How to compensate people and establish a competitive advantage within the insurance industry
- The emergence of ESG and how that impacts a company that underwrites catastrophe risks
Click the timestamp to jump to each answer:
3:40 – Introduction and the transformational merger with TransRe
7:50 – Weston’s plan as CEO (why the diversification into reinsurance)
9:50 – What made TransRe such a compelling opportunity
11:30 – The difficulties of M&A and why Alleghany is unique as a company
13:30 – The big surprises from the TransRe deal
14:55 – Looking back on the TransRe transaction 10 years later
17:50 – The impact of new competition moving into reinsurance
20:24 – What makes insurance companies such effective compounders
23:19 – Compensation as a lever for performance
25:40 – The history of Alleghany’s investment strategy
28:11 – How involved the board is in capital allocation
32:00 – Alleghany’s capital allocation strategy, investing North Star, and inevitable missteps
36:20 – Alleghany Capital and family run businesses
40:47 – Growing Alleghany Capital & the insurance business
43:17 – Weston’s approach to growing shareholder wealth
48:30 – Hiring, compensation, and employee retention
52:08 – The emergence of ESG
57:20 – Why Alleghany utilizes special dividends
61:20 – Alleghany’s exceptional stock growth
64:40 – What about Alleghany makes Weston so comfortable stepping away
67:50 – Areas where Alleghany has had to adapt
70:25 – What is the most misunderstood aspect of Alleghany?
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