On today's episode, Chuck talks with Christopher J. Williamson, Assistant Secretary for Mine Safety and Health Administration (MSHA). Secretary Williamson leads the federal agency in charge of keeping all miners safe and healthy, and was a key figure behind rule changes that help protect miners from silica dust exposure.  We're thrilled he joined the show!

Plus, Chuck and Big John breakdown the presidential debate.

Learn more about the Chris Mack story at the DOL https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/interactive/2024/michael-lewis-chris-marks-the-canary-who-is-government/

Timestamps
02:10 — Intro and discussion about presidential debate
24:42 — Interview with Secretary Chris J. Williamson

• 28:15 — Secretary Williamson's Appalachian roots and background
• 39:00 — Black lung and the silica dust exposure rule changes
• 48:55 — Reaction to the rule from miners, industry, etc. 
• 01:01:05 — Other priorities at MSHA
• 01:14:30 — Profile about Chris Mack

01:17:10 — Big John's got beef with….you?

Transition Music: “Leave it to Me” by Corduroy Brown https://corduroy-brown.com/
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