"The best way to predict the future of the church is simply to look at the present." As many of us have learned in the last few years, predicting the future is hard. But what if current events could help us better understand (and prepare for) where we're headed? 

In this bonus episode, Tony sits down with ministry thought leader Carey Nieuwhof to discuss current and future church trends.

For the full episode transcript and links mentioned during the show, visit this episode's Show Notes.

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