
 Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps
 Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps “Godfather of the Greens”, fmr Senator Bob Brown
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 Oct 9, 2025  Bob Brown, the former Australian senator and environmental trailblazer who co-founded the world's first Green Party, shares his remarkable journey and insights. He discusses the critical role of trees in our lives and the need for strong leadership to combat climate denial. Reflecting on his successful Franklin River campaign, he emphasizes the power of direct action and media tactics. Bob connects empathy, wildness, and personal acceptance in nature with political activism, urging a shift from major party politics to a greener, more inclusive future. 
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Humans Are Forest Creatures
- Humans evolved in and remain deeply connected to trees and forests, which shape our bodies and senses.
- Bob Brown argues protecting nature also protects mental health and reduces modern anxiety.
The Scale Of Recent Ecological Loss
- Massive biodiversity and wildlife loss has occurred within a human lifetime, driven by technological overreach.
- Brown cites expert projections that 2°C warming could cause major economic collapse and billions of deaths.
Complacency Mirrors Historical Failures
- People feel overwhelmed and exhausted about climate and political crises, leading to denial and paralysis.
- Brown compares pre-WWII complacency to today's climate denial and says decisive leadership is missing on the left.



